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	<title>Comments on: Quasi-frames with CSS: A layout with a different flavor</title>
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	<description>I'm pretty good at wasting your time.  By Tom Sherman.</description>
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		<title>By: yukkk</title>
		<link>http://underscorebleach.net/jotsheet/2004/12/frames-with-css-layout#comment-318102</link>
		<dc:creator>yukkk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 18:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: yukkk</title>
		<link>http://underscorebleach.net/jotsheet/2004/12/frames-with-css-layout#comment-318101</link>
		<dc:creator>yukkk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 17:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kj</description>
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		<title>By: Ejaz Asi</title>
		<link>http://underscorebleach.net/jotsheet/2004/12/frames-with-css-layout#comment-98373</link>
		<dc:creator>Ejaz Asi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 19:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if we could have links in the static frames-like header return content in the content area without reloading the page?</description>
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		<title>By: Tom Sherman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Sherman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Nov 2006 16:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daniel, you're write.  At the time I posted &lt;a href="http://underscorebleach.net/jotsheet/2004/12/frames-with-css-layout#comment-1533" rel="nofollow"&gt;that comment&lt;/a&gt; I didn't know about innerHTML :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel, you&#8217;re write.  At the time I posted <a href="http://underscorebleach.net/jotsheet/2004/12/frames-with-css-layout#comment-1533" rel="nofollow">that comment</a> I didn&#8217;t know about innerHTML :P</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Nov 2006 09:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just wanted to note that Safari is based on the KHTML rendering engine, used in the Open Source Konqueror Browser/File Manager on Linux. I am working in Konqueror at the moment, and the page works fine and as expected. If you want to test compatibility with Safari, I recommend checking performance in Konqueror, which is generally comparable (Konqueror is usually a TINY step ahead of Safari, but this is negligible.)

Thank you for the useful entry! It helps greatly in my looking for a solution to frames.

Oh, and Rick, I disagree with Mr. Sherman somewhat, (Sorry!), about loading content into div's. but I think that while possible, it requires some PHP. I'm looking into it myself at the moment. If you're not familiar with PHP, though, it can't be done to my knowledge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wanted to note that Safari is based on the KHTML rendering engine, used in the Open Source Konqueror Browser/File Manager on Linux. I am working in Konqueror at the moment, and the page works fine and as expected. If you want to test compatibility with Safari, I recommend checking performance in Konqueror, which is generally comparable (Konqueror is usually a TINY step ahead of Safari, but this is negligible.)</p>
<p>Thank you for the useful entry! It helps greatly in my looking for a solution to frames.</p>
<p>Oh, and Rick, I disagree with Mr. Sherman somewhat, (Sorry!), about loading content into div&#8217;s. but I think that while possible, it requires some PHP. I&#8217;m looking into it myself at the moment. If you&#8217;re not familiar with PHP, though, it can&#8217;t be done to my knowledge.</p>
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		<title>By: phil vas</title>
		<link>http://underscorebleach.net/jotsheet/2004/12/frames-with-css-layout#comment-1535</link>
		<dc:creator>phil vas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2006 16:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree:  this is excellent if you're dealing with a vertically scrollbar.  But is there a solution to the position:fixed/IE problem for horizontal scrollbars?
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		<title>By: Lars Henning</title>
		<link>http://underscorebleach.net/jotsheet/2004/12/frames-with-css-layout#comment-1534</link>
		<dc:creator>Lars Henning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2006 17:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is excellent.  I was searching for an alternative to the dreaded framesets and iframes.  They are such a pain.  This works well.  I have modified the css by using relative positioning of the content frame.  This allows for auto margining the container (an thus centering it) for websites where the nav is horizontal, not vertical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is excellent.  I was searching for an alternative to the dreaded framesets and iframes.  They are such a pain.  This works well.  I have modified the css by using relative positioning of the content frame.  This allows for auto margining the container (an thus centering it) for websites where the nav is horizontal, not vertical.</p>
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		<title>By: tom sherman</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom sherman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Mar 2006 02:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick: Not possible.  The entire page will reload.  What you want to use is an &lt;strong&gt;IFRAME&lt;/strong&gt;.</description>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
		<link>http://underscorebleach.net/jotsheet/2004/12/frames-with-css-layout#comment-1532</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2006 14:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So I have been looking into quite a few tutorials on this "css frame" solution and I am stumped on one thing...With frames, I can set up links/buttons on one side that when clicked, the opposing frame loads another page. How does this work using CSS without having the other page include the menu, the header, the footer, etc. Can a div tag hold "content.html" until a nav button is clicked, at which point "content2.html" is loaded in the div?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I have been looking into quite a few tutorials on this &#8220;css frame&#8221; solution and I am stumped on one thing&#8230;With frames, I can set up links/buttons on one side that when clicked, the opposing frame loads another page. How does this work using CSS without having the other page include the menu, the header, the footer, etc. Can a div tag hold &#8220;content.html&#8221; until a nav button is clicked, at which point &#8220;content2.html&#8221; is loaded in the div?</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Blake</title>
		<link>http://underscorebleach.net/jotsheet/2004/12/frames-with-css-layout#comment-1531</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Blake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 05:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*Safari*.....sorry for the second post. I also forgot to say that I really like your approach to solving this problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*Safari*&#8230;..sorry for the second post. I also forgot to say that I really like your approach to solving this problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Blake</title>
		<link>http://underscorebleach.net/jotsheet/2004/12/frames-with-css-layout#comment-1530</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Blake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 05:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a little late, but I just wanted to tell you that it works on Safara 2.0 just like it would on Mozilla or Firefox.</description>
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